hello all - for quite awhile now i have been using php/jScript to get my data to the browser. i "invented" this method to get data from mysql to jScript: 1) build a php multidimensional array with mysql queries. this probably requires several nested loops. 2) issue the following line in the jScript section: PHP: const marksArray = JSON.parse('<?=addslashes(json_encode($marksArray) );?>'); so, my php is really just nested loops issuing mysql calls. the php multidimensional array then ends up being available to jScript/jQuery. but very recently i discovered meteor.js is doing the same thing, only MUCH better! it appears to get the best benefit from meteor, one should use mongoDB instead. from my research, it appears if one knows mysql at all, learning mongoDB looks very easy. mongoDB is storing data in a JSON format very similar to what mysql is doing. it has no schema, which has some advantages (and disadvantages as well) so meteor.js is merely acting as a conduit between your back-end server and the browser, making the mongoDB JSON "collection" available to your users. (this is literally all i know about it so far) there is a meteor.js training class in San Francisco (October 23) which i will be attending. meteor looks like it has a normal learning curve (unlike Java), but my brain needs this stuff spoon-fed into it, at least initially. any other interest in meteor.js or mongoDB?